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Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:52:00 -
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''Eve isn't designed to look like a cold, harsh and unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, harsh and unforgiving world.'' - Some CCP bloke
i've been in and out of Jita over the last few days and only experienced a little lag. If you're that upset go to Rens, or better still go stockpile until it's all over.
Just quit whinging and adapt, that's what sandboxes are all about
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Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:09:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:
EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.
Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.
You just don't get it. God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing. Brainwashing really really works.
That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak.
Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.
Also if Western civilisation is more likely to 'fall' to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat, why was Hit ler so much less successful than Mao?
Just a thought
Dav
Edit: Stalin too
Edit 2... why is 'Hit ler' censored? |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:18:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Davin Nix wrote:[
That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak.
Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.
Dav Sorry you wasted so much energy there. My argument, had you actually really read my posts, is towards those who keep claiming EVE is a PvP game. Period and final.
Eve is a PvP game, at least far more PvP focussed than the vast majority of MMOs out there. Sure we have missions, incursions and wormhole sleeper sites. But it's the PvP which makes things interesting, if you had really read my post you'd have noticed the repeated references to 'conflict'. Again, if the game was supposed to be safe and PvP wasn't such a key part of the game we wouldnt be allowed guns in highsec, missions wouldnt be given in lowsec systems and concord response times would be immediate.
My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.
I spent the last 2 and half years living in China, where the majority of the population literally quote the party line when asked about key issues. Back in England and everyone is moaning about tax, decisions on the olympics and the government in general.
Please try not to pigeonhole us into stereotypes, especially when you clearly haven't got a clue
Dav
p.s. love how you cut that part out of the quote by the way :p |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:27:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Western Civilization is on the brink, but its on the brink due to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth, even when proof is presented.
Whilst I agree that the wilfully ignorant are a royal pain in the arse I must ask... What exactly are we on the brink of?
I've only been back a year but at the moment, at least in the UK the only thing i'm on the brink of is having all of my money taxed away by the government. That and this lovely new recession everyone is talking about but we're getting pretty good at those now I think.
I don't know how things are across the pond but things aren't too unstable where i'm standing
Dav |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Davin Nix wrote:
My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.
Talk about creating statements out of thin air. I said no such thing. And that is provable above in the thread. I said they were 'easily brainwashed"....which by default implies potential. I never, not never, said ALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS brainwashed. But the Goons certainly are. And they excellently demonstrate the potential. Sorry that you read so fast or something that rather important details get missed and then UNTRUE FALSEHOODS posted about what was actually typed. Better luck next time.
Errr do you read your own posts?
Ahem... if i may:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You
just
don't
get
it.
God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.
Brainwashing really really works.
I have highlighted the key phrases in bold, just in case you read it too quickly
Correct me if i'm wrong but... that shows that what was as you so aptly describe 'actually typed' was not in fact 'easily brainwashed' it does in fact say 'are brainwashed' ...which to use your own phrasology, implies a current state of affairs.
The goons are not brainwashed, and the west is not easily brainwashed. They just aren't doing what you want, you're angry and you are channelling this anger into a fundamentally flawed argument with no basis of evidence.
Please, next time you challenge a statement, actually check what you wrote beforehand, else you will, once again risk making statements which are inherently false.
Dav
p.s. 'UNTRUE FALSEHOODS' Is a tautologically redundant phrase |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:37:00 -
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edit: see last post |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:52:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:
Not gonna debate, just go watch idiocracy. Its scary how accurate it is towards trends(at least here in the US)
alrighty, i'll check it out, Cheers |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:01:00 -
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Twulf wrote:
If its a Sandbox as you claim then the OP should be able to play the game as they want. That is what a Sandbox is.
What we have in EVE is a Sandbox that is controlled by large alliances and corporations. That is not a Sandbox as a few decide how the rest should play but I do not expect idiots like you to understand logic and common sense.
A single player sandbox should of course operate in the way you suggest.
However, eve is a massively multiplayer online sandbox. And the very mechanics which allow the formation of corporations and alliances encourage such behaviour.
The fight for control of resources necessitates the formation of large alliances and corporations as simple escalation. This is a survival tactic. Just because every once in a while a large alliance uses the power they have to mount a campaign such as burn jita is not making the game unfair as such. It is in fact a clever move to raise prices and undoubtedly some people are making vast amounts of isk out of it.
to be successful in eve you cannot play alone. If you'd prefer this, go play X3 or some other single player space sim
Dav |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:03:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
again, wasted breath.
from above: I'm NOT here to argue or debate out of game politics.
So why do you make such sweeping references to other cultures, insist you never made them and then ignore them in subsequent posts?
You are a very special individual
Dav |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:10:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Davin Nix wrote:So why do you make such sweeping references to other cultures, insist you never made them and then ignore them in subsequent posts?
You are a very special individual
Dav Because I never made 'sweeping references to cultures". God you trolls are pathetic. get too many spankings as a child ?
You are kidding right? or do you have short term memory loss? My condolences if you do indeed suffer from such a condition but in the meantime, as a reminder:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.
Brainwashing really really works.
How is that in any way NOT a sweeping reference to another culture?
My childhood was rather pleasant though thank you, what is less pleasant is your continued ignorance and failure to admit that your arguments are inherently erroneous. Not to mention your convenient memory lapses concerning some of your more ridiculous outbursts.
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Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:01:00 -
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Munba Uanid wrote:I'm with the OP Only ones having fun now are the goons greifing other players. Noobs havent a chance now. New players are the lifeblood of a game. They not only get slated on the forums for being new but get ripped off, greifed and now continually ganked. Goons are killing EVE This acc is unsubing in 2 weeks. Hi sec is meant to be for hi seccy safe stuff. RE concord. Not a place where goons can come and display their small weiners at will by ganking everyone whenever they want. No you cant have my stuff This is only my forum alt all the good stuff has been given in corp. tears no. just saying as it is. bring on the slating 
new players dont start in Jita, nor do they start flying hulks... Goons aren't shooting new players in starter systems, they're shooting haulers in Jita.
High sec isn't designed to be universally safe, it's designed to be MORE safe. If you autopilot in an untanked hauler, or afk mine in a belt then you are not playing the game and shouldn't be moaning about people getting ganked.
If you join a half decent corp as I did when I first started the game they will help you out, financially and with advice and information. In this specific case however, simply avoiding Jita for a few days solves all of your problems.
Before you go and unsub, convo me in game and spend your last 2 weeks playing in a helpful corp, maybe then you'll think twice about dropping out entirely.
Dav |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations
Next Generation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:52:00 -
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Angry carebears can always join the 'Jita Interdiction Defence Force', Their chief aim is to push back the goons and make highsec a safe place for afk miners and autopilots!
5 members so far!
I would point out though that the name of the corp kind of suggests they'd be defending the goons interdiction of Jita... whoops |
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